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September 29th Chat with Eugene W. Roddenberry
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Abstract:
I was invited by NASA Life Sciences to participate in "The Challenge Project".
As mentioned in the Website (http://quest.arc.nasa.gov/space/challenge/)
this project's main theme was to explore the Human Potential in a variety
of different environments. People from all walks of life were invited to
participate and share, via internet and other media, how their life experiences
related to the theme of the project. Below is the transcript of a chat of
myself and other individual from around the world which was held while I
was inside the Scott Carpenter underwater station.
BoredTech
Eugene, ahhh we wondered what happened to you, so how is the view down
there?
Eugene W. Roddenberry
Well, since Hurricane Georges, things have been pretty turned up! Looking
out of the Station is looking into a green glow
Rick S.
How many people are down with you?
Ed2
Have they put you through numerous tests down there, Eugene? Well, I heard
the project was supposed to study the effects of environment on aging.
I was wondering if they were torturing you.
BoredTech
Ed, I don't think they would be so mean.
Eugene W. Roddenberry
Ed , I showed your question to one of the project diver's outside the
lab and she began to choke with laughter!
Eugene W. Roddenberry
BoredTech
yes, sorry eating cookies and letting Ed ask the questions
Ed2
Any red shirted ensigns down there (= instant death)?
Eugene W. Roddenberry
That got a good laugh down here, ED!
Cache
trying to do too many things at once, and satisfied to read replies.
BoredTech
Eugene, so what are you doing to keep busy down there?
Eugene W. Roddenberry
Well Bored, I did a NASA chat this morning and had some pretty good technical
problems. I then swam around the lagoon for a bit. I then enter the Science
lab which is another underwater station next door. and Not this chat.
Eugene W. Roddenberry
We are looking up at the setting sun and see a very pretty sparking effect
through the rippling waves!
Eugene W. Roddenberry
I am down here with the builder of this station, Joe Bishop.
Eugene W. Roddenberry
He is witness to everything you say, and he loves it
Ed2
Eugene W. Roddenberry
Eugene W. Roddenberry
we are going to order pizza later on!
BoredTech
hahaha I'm sure just delivering it will be interesting
Ed2
So what kind of information does NASA hope to get from these experiments?
Eugene W. Roddenberry
It is pretty cool. They have a "Pelican Dry Box" that they put things
in and send it down with a 40lb weight attached.
Eugene W. Roddenberry
There is a moon pool (A hole in the bottom of the station) where we go
in and out
BoredTech
so is the station stationary or can you feel it moving?
Ed2
Is Pizza part of the experiment? I read the Garfield strips...astronauts
getting tired of lasagna?
Eugene W. Roddenberry
Funny you mention it but there was a rep here from Jim Davidson's organization
(Creator of Garfield)
Eugene W. Roddenberry
The Challenge mission is basically a demonstration to show people of various
lifestyle and conditions, that anyone can adapt to a unique environment.
We have people ranging from 14 to 95 participating ! It is primarily to
show people that all the need to do it get out there and try!
Eugene W. Roddenberry
You don't need to be on the cover of GQ and Fitness Magazine to do this
stuff!
Eugene W. Roddenberry
BoredTech, the station is tied down by turnbuckle to a 5000lb ballast
weight!
Cache
that's probably a good thing,
BoredTech
they have a 14 yr. old down there? wow!
Bea
How's the weather in Florida?
Eugene W. Roddenberry
The weather is hot and humid.
I've already been eaten alive by the mosquitoes!
Bea
Has to be much better than here in Canada, it's freezing in the morning!
Eugene W. Roddenberry
Could everyone tell me where they are writing from? (City. State)
Bea
Burlington, Ontario ( Canada)
Ed2
Cache
BoredTech
Tehachapi, California, normally in Lancaster , CA though
Bea
Ah, all these people in nice, warm places
Cache
hot in KS, I'll take some of your cool weather!
Eugene W. Roddenberry
What's the weather in Ontario? I'll be back there in 2 days!
BoredTech
hahaha actually it's cloudy, windy and about 42 degrees outside so I don't
know about warm!
Bea
Well, it's not very cold here right now, the morning are horribly cold,
but the afternoons are incredibly cold
Eugene W. Roddenberry
Well, Could I provoke you all to ask more questions about the Challenge
project since they are letting me use their underwater phone lines?
Eugene W. Roddenberry
WE can throw and EFC or ST question in here and there.
Bea
What are you doing down there??? (Underwater)
Cache
yes, I didn't read up very well on the project
Cache
yes, what are you doing? is what I meant
Bea
Is it any fun down there?
Eugene W. Roddenberry
Bea, the Challenge Project is essentially a demonstration showing, hopefully
the world, that anyone can be an aquanaut. There are people here from
all walk of life, sex, physical condition...etc. They are all participating
and having a great time!
BoredTech
Eugene, how long do you have to stay down there?
Ed2
Eugene, I have seen this program and the upcoming John Glenn return to
space event criticized for having little (if at all) scientific value.
What would your (and the NASA people with you) say to that?
Bea
Could you please define Aquanaut?
Eugene W. Roddenberry
It's is fun in the sense that I tell myself, "I have been under the ocean
for almost 1 hour now. And I'm talking to people all around the world."
It tells me in a sense that the future is upon us. Corny, but true!
Bea
Does this have anything to do with next year's Year of the Ocean? Or was
that this year?
Eugene W. Roddenberry
Bea, Aquanaut is the Astronaut of the ocean. Aqua = water and naut....um....well
it means something like person. Ya, that's it!
Bea
Eugene W. Roddenberry
Bea, They tell me that this will have some connect to the Year of the
Ocean. This underwater station is also tied to John Glenn return to space
Eugene W. Roddenberry
Bea, You are definitely an Aquanut! HAHA
Eugene W. Roddenberry
Bored, I am down here for an "undetermined" length of time of time.
BoredTech
Eugene W. Roddenberry
I know that did not make sense, but again other powers that be control
the situation
BoredTech
Eugene, It makes since to me, I often work on time lines like that
Eugene W. Roddenberry
Cache, Your too quiet, what r u doing? Underwater too?
Ed2
Have there been talks of building a lunar station based upon the underwater
station?
Cache
writing at the moment, sorry. came planning to read responses, not really
take active part.
Eugene W. Roddenberry
Good Question ED! I will ask!
Eugene W. Roddenberry
According to the Station builder next to me, that would be ideal. The
ocean is a test bed for the future of Stations on the moon.
Eugene W. Roddenberry
No problem Cache, just giving you a hard time!
Ed2
Neat...with the recent news of the Discovery Project's Lunar Prospector
(finding water) has there been any plans for follow up projects?
Eugene W. Roddenberry
These are really good questions that I am not prepared for....I will ask
again!
Eugene W. Roddenberry
Ed, in regards to your question I am told that so far they have heard
nothing of a follow-up project. But in my partner's own terms, "The Damn
well should be!"
BoredTech
Eugene, so what do you do when your not underwater or working on EFC?
Eugene W. Roddenberry
Well, I live in Toronto with my Fiancˇe, Kerry and my Dog Orion. (Germanshepherd/Rottwieler
mix)
Ed2
Here's a question directed at the philosophies of your father More commercial
ventures into space have arisen recently. This seems to be a trend which
might eventually overshadow unified projects into space by NASA. Star
Trek never portrayed the future of space exploration by private commercialism.
Furthermore, the recent Discovery projects which are supposed to be "cheaper,
faster, better" seem to rule out things like a Mars mission, or deep space
exploration. What are your thoughts on this?
Eugene W. Roddenberry
I go to LA where my original home is and visit with friends and family.
Eugene W. Roddenberry
Ed, you do have a good question!
Eugene W. Roddenberry
Well, I imagine ST was much further in the future after private enterprise
had enter space. There are even a few should that deal with individuals
and businesses that are in space but.... I am in full support of other
"companies" entering the space program. I also have mixed feeling on the
Cheaper faster. Although the main idea behind Cheaper faster is to get
the ISS (International Space Station) up and running which is going to
be a major advance in the Human space endeavor.
Ed2
Even if there focus is the exploitation of resources and nothing else?
Bea
Well, the space industry needs to make back some money after all that
spending, I mean it was billions of dollars spent during the Apollo program
and now there's still lots being spent on space missions, but where is
all this money coming from?
Eugene W. Roddenberry
It is difficult to weight the pluses & minuses of what is being done today
against the potentials of the future. It is never a black and white issue,
is it?
Eugene W. Roddenberry
Bea, I would guess Taxes? No?
Bea
Well, The U.S. has such low taxes!
Bea
Wait, there's the IRS, nevermind
Eugene W. Roddenberry
BoredTech
Low taxes? you think 22% of your paycheck going to taxes is low?
Bea
Well, here, if you make over 60 grand a year the taxes are 50%!!!
Eugene W. Roddenberry
Just to let you al know I'm going to have to split at 6:30 and swim over
to the other underwater station for the remainder of my time. There are
no phone lines over there. (FYI)
Ed2
I wouldn't call getting taxed more than W.W.II, "low" taxes
Eugene W. Roddenberry
I believe it is similar here!
Bea
US has lower taxes than Canada!!!!!
Eugene W. Roddenberry
Well, I'm not that knowledgeable on international Tax politics so i do
not really know.
BoredTech
Bea, 'what's the tax rate there?
Ed2
Yes, we have lower taxes than Canada...but they are still too high
Bea
I know that there's the 7% Goods and Service Tax and here in Ontario there's
the 8% Provincial Sales Tax
Bea
Then there's the taxes on your pay and everything else
Bea
Bea
BoredTech
what's the tax you pay on everything you buy?
Bea
Eugene W. Roddenberry
Ahh, well that's nothing. Here your taxed every time you leave the Station!
Water cost a lot these days!
BoredTech
15%? wow and i thought 9.25% was bad in LA
Eugene W. Roddenberry
Well, Did you all know that James Cameron was here a few days ago?
Eugene W. Roddenberry
He watched "The Abyss" while in the Station.
Ed2
I heard, but I wasn't online.
Eugene W. Roddenberry
There were a few other Celebrities that were scheduled but had to cancel
due to Georges.
Bea
Ed2
I read that Kate Mulgrew was supposed to be there.
Bea
She was, She had a chat too, on Saturday, I think
Eugene W. Roddenberry
She was going to come but Georges messed up her schedule. She could only
change her schedule so much.
Bea
What's the age of the youngest person in the program?
Eugene W. Roddenberry
Rosalyn Grymes' Daughter is 14.
Bea
Ed2
Will the current Russian economic crisis affect the International Space
Station? I heard they were supposed to launch the first 2 modules.
Eugene W. Roddenberry
I believe the Oldest person is 95. Ed Ball of Ball Aviation. He is also
a Pilot!
Bea
Nothing like being a pilot!
BoredTech
Eugene, so what do they have the kids doing so they don't drive everyone
nuts?
Eugene W. Roddenberry
Ed, apparently it's affecting the ISS already. To what degree is anybody's
guess. WE, the US, are taking on more of the cost to compensate.
Eugene W. Roddenberry
We actually do not have many kids here. They are being taken care of.
Eugene W. Roddenberry
Well, Guys I actually need to start wrapping things up now. We are packing
up to go over to the other station.
Bea
It was nice to see you here!
Bea
Are you going to be back anytime soon?
Eugene W. Roddenberry
Ya, I had a lot of fun. We will post this chat and it will also be on
the Challenge page.
Eugene W. Roddenberry
I will schedule another chat very soon. I had a great time!
Bea
Do you have an email address for anyone to contact you?
Eugene W. Roddenberry
Bea
Eugene W. Roddenberry
Take care everyone. Signing off!
BoredTech
Eugene W. Roddenberry
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