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PART 1: New WebChat sessions announced
PART 2: Students discuss design of space hardware
PART 3: Another plea to register
PART 4: What's up in space: nothing new
PART 5: Science is fun; having a good evening
PART 6: We don't cover up our mistakes


NEW WEBCHAT SESSIONS ANNOUNCED

A new series of WebChats has been scheduled with NASA experts
from various backgrounds. Your students can virtually meet these
people and learn about their jobs, career paths, and personal
interests.

To participate, please RSVP for each event to Andrea by sending a
brief Email note to andream@quest.arc.nasa.gov with the date(s) you
plan to participate. This RSVP is very important, since it will allow
us to ensure that the chatroom does not become too crowded.

Wednesday, November 20 from 10-11 AM Pacific (1-2 PM Eastern)
Tana Hoban-Higgins is a Principal Investigator at the University of
California, Davis. She is involved in designing experiments to study
the internal body clocks of beetles in space.

Wednesday, December 4 from 10-11 AM Pacific (1-2 PM Eastern)
Karen Borski is a Mission Science Support Engineer at NASA Johnson
Space Center. She is responsible for archiving data for life science
experiments on computers.

Wednesday, December 11 from 10-11 AM Pacific (1-2 PM Eastern)
Cecilia Wigley is a System Safety, Reliability & Quality Assurance
Lead at NASA Ames Research Center. She is responsible for insuring
that equipment flown in space is safe and functions properly.

For more information about all of this, please visit the web page at:
http://quest.arc.nasa.gov/smore/events/interact.html


STUDENTS DISCUSS DESIGN OF SPACE HARDWARE

As part of The Great Plant Debate
(http://quest.arc.nasa.gov/smore/events/datashare.html), 
students
have just begun to discuss the relative merits of various
hardware designs for growing plants in space. Please consider having
your students join the discussion on a mail list called debate-sm.

There are various ways to participate in this action. You may
receive the messages direct to your email box, either in a standard
or digested form. The standard mechanism will deliver each
contribution as a new mail message. If you already get too much
email coming in, then you may opt for the digest option. This
collates all of the contributions in the past 24-hours, which is
then forwarded as one email per day to you.

To join these lists, send an email message to
      listmanager@quest.arc.nasa.gov
Write one of the following lines in the message body:
      subscribe debate-sm
      subscribe debate-digest-sm

In addition, you can also access this dialogue via the web. For this
option, see this web homepage:
http://quest.arc.nasa.gov/smore/debate-sm-lwgate.html

      
      
ANOTHER PLEA TO REGISTER

A few weeks back, we began registering S/MORE users voluntarily.
We had about 85 people register. Thanks so much. But there are
around 600 people signed up for the S/MORE mail list. So that
means a lot of folks did not bother to help us.

We ask those folks to reconsider and to now register. It won't
take very much of your time and it will provide us with critical
information we need to continue doing these projects. We are
interested in hearing from everybody, whether or not you are
actually using this project to teach students in a classroom.
Please take a few moments and visit
http://quest.arc.nasa.gov/smore/credits/survey.html
Thanks again


WHAT'S UP IN SPACE

We were unable to obtain information from the past week. So this
regular feature will return next week.



[Editor's note: Kenneth Souza is a high-level manager of life sciences
activities at NASA Ames, where he helps oversee many unique facilities (like centrifuges). Also his organization does in-house research and works with those outside of NASA to help them use space for advancing our knowledge of biomedical problems and basic biology.] THE FUN OF DOING SPACE EXPERIMENTS Kenneth A. Souza - http://quest.arc.nasa.gov/smore/team/ksouza.html August 8, 1996 Within my first few months as a research scientist at Ames, I was asked to join a spaceflight team, which took me out of the laboratory environment and down to the Kennedy Space Center in Cape Canaveral, Florida. I was involved with an embryology experiment that was the predecessor of the one that I subsequently flew on the shuttle in the early 1990s. We flew a variety of organisms--plants, insects and frog eggs that were fertilized on the ground and taken into space--on some biosatellites in the mid-1960s. It became incredibly exciting to be a part of that process, in which things are developed, put on a rocket, sent into space, and received back several days later. Following the early biosatellites, there were not many opportunities for space biologists to gain access to space. In 1978 NASA requested proposals for flights onboard the new space shuttle. I submitted a proposal which was a logical extension of the early frog embryology experiments. It passed peer review and went into the queue awaiting a flight opportunity. It was very interesting and exciting to be a part of taking an experiment from an idea stage, through the hardware development and training of the astronauts, to the actual interaction with them during flight and conduct of the experiment. Fortunately, this experiment was very successful. We received excellent results. This was a developmental biology experiment studying how organisms could develop in the absence of gravity. The model was just simple frog eggs for study, but it was fairly complex to do in space because of the difficulties of conducting any kind of research in the absence of gravity. We are now on a threshold of putting a permanently occupied space station into orbit and beginning human exploration beyond the Moon and Mars. If we get the station up, it will give us the opportunity to do things we couldn't do on the shuttle. There will be more time and people in space and more power to do things with. If we do continue exploration to the Moon and Mars, we will have unlimited opportunities to expand our horizons. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * HAVING A "GOOD" EVENING Kenneth A. Souza - http://quest.arc.nasa.gov/smore/team/ksouza.html August 8, 1996 I was a member of a joint working group with the Russians, in which every year we would get together: about 10 U.S. members and about 10 Russians. One year we would meet in Russia, and the next year we would meet in the U.S. I was a part of that group that met in Leningrad in 1978. The Russians, out of the blue, came to me and said, "We'd like to move our program from plants, cells, tissues and rats to non-human primates." They had never flown a monkey in space. "These biomedical problems that exist with humans in long-term spaceflight are very serious: bone wasting, muscle loss, etc. The only way we're really going to get more insight is to utilize a primate species like the Rhesus monkey, and we'd like you to be involved." When the offer came to me, it was my job to analyze the offer and if I thought it as good for the US, I was to put a set of arguments together that I could take to the head of the U.S. delegation, and convince him that this was the right thing to do for NASA and our overall Space Biology and Medicine Program. I had to do all of it overnight, and it was about 8 p.m. when the offer came to us. Of course, the banquets that existed every night didn't give me a lot of time to do other things. At that time, we didn't have computers to allow us to bang out a few things in our hotel room. So I remember going back to my room between 10 and 11 p.m., after the dinner broke up, and trying to put some things together by hand. I do remember writing it all out. It was about 4 a.m. when I finally finished. At 8 a.m., the head of the delegation met with me and I showed him the pros and cons, risks, and rough cost estimates, all of which I had come up with the previous night. After he thought about the issues for awhile, and asked other people in the delegation for their opinions, we were given the go-ahead to proceed down this new path. That meant that at the end of the meeting, we entered into a protocol basically stating that we accepted the offer and would go forward and work with the Russians in the new program. This would be in addition to a budget commitment from the head of the delegation, who was the director of NASA Life Sciences. That put us on a path that we are still on, called the BION series. The first BION mission with monkeys was to have flown in 1981, but did not fly until 1983. But since that time, we have flown the missions every two years. It has been extremely productive and has enhanced our understanding of biomedical problems, as well as expanded what we have been able to glean from the use of rodents. That was very exciting to realize that I was at that crossroads. Had I had a bad evening and not presented the case well enough, today we may not have the benefit of the joint venture with the Russians.
[Editor's note: Cecilia is a System Safety, Reliability, and Quality Assurance Lead. She makes sure that the equipment sent into space will not cause any injury or illness to any of the crew members, or possibly damage the shuttle or hardware experiments. Also, she insures that designs and hardware meet the stringent requirements (both Russian and American) on anything that flies.] WE DON'T COVER UP OUR MISTAKES Cecilia Wigley - http://quest.arc.nasa.gov/smore/team/cwigley.html August 1, 1996 A typical day includes going to a lot of meetings. I spend half of my time going to meetings. The rest of the time is spent writing reports, answering engineering questions, overseeing hardware building and reviewing documents. What often happens is that in the middle of a test, the hardware doesn't function correctly. This has happened with jet engines and test conductors. When something doesn't work correctly we do a lot of brainstorming and try to determine what we can do to fix the problem. We try to do what we need to in order to stay on schedule, but not blow the budget. Sometimes we have to admit that something didn't work and we have to go back and do it again. Part of our reputation is that we do not try to hide our mistakes and we own up to problems that occur. We provide solutions to problems and the worst thing is to try to cover up mistakes. I have been involved in 10 successful missions and the patches and stickers on my wall represent missions that I have played some role in. The successes far outweigh the problems. But in the final outcome, we can say that we did what we needed to do, the scientists got what they needed, and we were part of the different aspects of a mission.


      

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