Meet: Michael Hale
Lead Engineer
NASA Ames Research Center
My journals
Who am I?
In my position as a lead engineer, I try to understand what the Science
and Payloads groups are trying to complete. But it is very difficult to
understand what they want to get done. It starts like a blank canvas where
everyone paints different ideas. However, as time goes on, we become more
detailed, more focused and more understanding of what we, as a group,
need to do in order to get an experiment completed and on-orbit in space.
Our job in design engineering is completed once the hardware is delivered.
The Payloads group handles the hardware issues from that point on and
we are needed only if something happens with the hardware during a mission.
I try to organize what the engineers have to do, such as: what drawings
must be produced, what hardware must be purchased, and what testing must
be done on certain parts after they have been created. We must test parts
in order to make sure they will work the way we planned for them to. As
a lead engineer, I organize much of the work that is done by other engineers.
I mostly keep tabs on them and ask if they need help in any way. If there
is any information they are not getting from other groups, I try to get
answers for them.
My Career Journey
My degree is actually in Civil Engineering, which involves using materials
like concrete, water, steel and dirt. There's not much of that involved
in what we are doing here in the space projects, though.
I ended up working on military contracts where I obtained experience
working for the government. Through that type of engineering, I think
I learned how to work with government-type contracts and some of the unique
work that is done with the U.S. government. It also helped me to learn
general engineering practices from the military. Everything is done very
orderly and with a lot of detail. I was working at Westinghouse before
I came to NASA. I have been with NASA for five years.
When I was a kid, I was always inquisitive about how things worked. I
always thought that everything I was given could be taken apart and made
better. No matter what was given to me, I would always try to change it
to make it more unique for me. That way of thinking is exactly what NASA
is looking for. They always want to make things easy to use, but that
can do many tasks, as well.
That's also what the astronauts are looking for. They want something
that is extremely easy to use. So we want to make something that they
can look at and automatically understand how to use.
My father was also an engineer. He worked on the Skylab mission, which
was our first manned orbiting laboratory. He also worked on the Apollo
missions and the Viking Lander missions. He would bring pictures of space
and models home for me and I would put them in my room. I thought it was
neat to have pictures of the Moon. I think things like that can interest
other young people.
I was always interested in space. I remember we were camping in Colorado
the day they landed on the Moon. My father was so tired from working on
the mission that he decided to take us camping. I remember sitting in
our car listening to the radio as they actually landed on the moon, and
that was a special moment for me, knowing my father played a role in this
historic event.
Influences
I sold books door to door once when I was in college and I was pretty
excited about that. I thought I was going to become a salesman because
I was so good at it. From that, I think I learned a lot of communication
skills that have helped me as an engineer.
I definitely had teachers in high school and college that were very positive
and helped me. I was pretty much a C student in school. Their positive
attitudes kept me going and made me believe in myself. My parents and
my teachers influenced me in keeping my self-image up.
Likes About Career
I feel my job is important, that I am helping to do something good, and
that it is something positive for humankind. I have the opportunity to
see benefits of my work and what I produce, instead of having the products
consumed. I'm also working with the people in Russia and we're working
together doing something positive for the planet.
Advice
I'd say first and foremost to get good grades and absolutely go to college.
I didn't believe this when my parents told me. It wasn't until late in
high school that I finally understood that they were speaking the truth.
I tried quitting college a couple of times, but I'm glad I finally got
my degree. Otherwise, I'd probably be out pumping gas or selling something
door to door. It's amazing the opportunities a degree presents to you.
Don't just do what school presents to you during normal school hours.
Try to get involved in other activities because they can increase your
knowledge and interest in other things. You can then spend time with people
who have the same interests as you.
My whole life I've tried to kick the stereotype of what engineers are
like. Granted, a bunch of them are very technical. It's just what their
personalities and skills influence them to be like. I've been trying to
buck that trend my whole life and a lot of people are surprised that I'm
an engineer, because I'm pretty wild. I'm not Mr. Pocket Protector, per
se. But then again, I don't consider myself all that technical.
I think the fact that I was a C-type student and that I sold books door-to-door,
showed I was more of a social type of person in high school and college.
I felt I would migrate toward a management type of position or just a
lead type of position. But you still need those strong technical, smart
people. I can understand what those people are involved in, but I can't
give the technical information a lot of them like. Most of the guys that
work for me are probably more technical than I am. But I have more experience,
in general, that allows me to be in a leadership position at this point
in my career.
When you're an individual contributor, it's very technical. I start feeling
very bad about my knowledge because engineering is very competitive is
smarter than who? It's very black and white to engineers. It's either
right or wrong. So engineers really like to break things down and put
set criteria on everything, even their social life.
I remember when I was selling books door-to-door during the summer when
I was in college. People would ask me what I was majoring in, and I would
tell them that I was majoring in engineering. They would say "Oh no. Not
another engineer. There is no gray area for engineers. It's either right
or wrong." So I learned to understand the gray areas that can exist from
my experience with people when I was selling books. But in general, most
engineers I encounter want everything to be black or white.
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