Date: September 16, 1998
Featuring: Robert Haberle
Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, CA
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Hello and welcome to today's Mars Team Online chat with Robert Haberle
from NASA Ames Research Center! Robert studies the atmospheres of planets
in our solar system (particularly Mars) and helps NASA plan for future
missions. He has analyzed data returned from the Mars spacecraft, and
has used the data to create simulations he and his colleagues have developed.
Bob's work helps us understand the weather and climate of Mars and why
is is so different from Earth.
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And now, here is Robert Haberle to answer your questions.
[ Matt - 10 - 14:58:05 ]
Hello, I am here and ready!
[ RobertHaberle/ARC - 13 - 14:59:06
RE: [Candace] What is the apnesphere
of mars in comparasin to earth?
Candace, Its made of CO2 gas and its very thin.
[ RobertHaberle/ARC - 14 - 14:59:43
RE: [Steve] Good afternoon Mr. Haberle.
What was your M.O.S. in the Army?
Steve, 11B40 - Infantry
[ RobertHaberle/ARC - 16 - 15:00:56
RE: [Emmy] Hi! What careers or training
do I need to be chosen to go on the mission to Mars? What college do
you suggest going to? What high school and college courses do you recommend?
Emmy, Take lots of Math and Science. Stay fit. There are many good technical
colleges to choose from.
[ RobertHaberle/ARC - 18 - 15:01:52
RE: [Matt] What is in Mars' atmoshere?
Matt, CO2 gas and dust. There is also some water vapor and other gases,
but these are very minor components.
[ RobertHaberle/ARC - 22 - 15:03:24
RE: [Matt] What are you opions on
the question about teraforming a planet? Is that a possible thing?
Matt, In my opinion, we should leave Mars alone and not try to change
it. Its a matter of ethics in my view. However, terraforming can be
a very exciting academic exercise. Personally, I don't think its possible.
You got to live with what it is.
[ RobertHaberle/ARC - 23 - 15:05:21
RE: [Stephanie/Edmonton] What colors
would the elements of Mars' atmosphere be if it were taken by a spectrometer.
In other words, what spectrum are they in?
Stephanie, The spectrum of Mars has many colors. The atmosphere in the
visible is generally reddish.
[ RobertHaberle/ARC - 26 - 15:07:57
RE: [mEmmy/TriValle] What careers
or training do I need to be chosen to go on the mission to Mars? What
college do you suggest? What college and high school courses do you
Emme, If you want to go to Mars, take lots of math and science and keep
yourself in good shape. Learn how to fly and airplane. Try to become
a NASA astronaut.
[ RobertHaberle/ARC - 27 - 15:08:31
RE: [Stephanie/Edmonton] What was
learned in the short science operations period?
Stephanie, Are you talking about Pathfinder?
[ RobertHaberle/ARC - 30 - 15:11:02
RE: [Candace] When is the first trip
to mars scheuled for? i heard it was in 2000 sometime...and would take
3 years. can you give any clairification
Candace, There is no firm schedule for the first trip to Mars. For planning
purposes, we are considering the 2010-2020 time frame as a possibility.
It is a very expensive thing to do and nobody has signed up to pay for
[ RobertHaberle/ARC - 32 - 15:13:02
RE: [Stephanie/Edmonton] No, I mean
MGS. Were there any significant science results learned during the aerobraking
Stephanie, Yes, there was a lot of data taken during the recent period
of no aerobraking. Pictures, spectra, topographic data, and radio occultations.
All are being analysed. We are hoping to resume aerobraking any day
now to get to the mapping orbit in February.
[ RobertHaberle/ARC - 34 - 15:14:36
RE: [Emmy] When will the human mission
to Mars take place?
Emmy, The first human mission to Mars will not occur before the year
2010 and it is my guess that it won't occur until later than that. But
is just a guess. It all depends on how it can be paid for.
[ RobertHaberle/ARC - 36 - 15:16:31
RE: [Stephanie/Edmonton] How is the
Climate Orbiter different from Global Surveyor?
Stephanie, The climate orbiter carries a payload that emphasizes atmospheric
studies, while the global surveyor's paylaod is more focused on surface
studies. Together they gives us a good picture of Mars globally and
[ RobertHaberle/ARC - 38 - 15:17:49
RE: [Stephanie/Edmonton] In what season
are are the dust storms the strongest? What season is Mars in now?
Stephanie, Dust storms are strongest during the northern winter season.
Right now its early spring. By the time MGS gets into its mapping orbit
summer will be starting.
[ RobertHaberle/ARC - 39 - 15:19:38
RE: [Candace/Canada] interesting.
You said the atmosphere is made of carbon dioxide...is there any life?
or simply rock
That is the 64,000 dollar question. Most people believe that Mars today
has no life. But it might have had life very early in its history (say
3.5 billion years ago). So a lot of effort is being put into ways to
find evidence for such an early biota.
[ RobertHaberle/ARC - 42 - 15:22:01
RE: [Candace/Canada] Space is an amazing
new frontier....it's sad that no one will pay for something worth wile
VS. more warheads. Anyway, what would be expected for the surface of
mars? ..if we ever get there...
I agree. Once we do get there, the surface will be rocks and sand and
dust. No vegetation, no lakes, no freeways, no nothing. Just vast expanses
of rocks, canyons, volcanoes, sand dunes, dust, etc.
[ RobertHaberle/ARC - 44 - 15:23:09
RE: [Stephanie/Edmonton] I'm always
hearing about Elysium Mons. Is anything particularly special about it?
Not that I'm aware of. Just another volcano.
[ RobertHaberle/ARC - 46 - 15:24:03
RE: [Stephanie/Edmonton] Candace,
I agree with you. Where in Canada are you from?
Actaully, I'm a Califonia native. But I do enjoy visiting Canada (BC
[ RobertHaberle/ARC - 48 - 15:25:33
RE: [Emmy] Do you think there are
any fossils of organic lifeforms on Mars?
Tough question. My guess is there are no fossils and no organic life
forms. But I can't be sure. I've always felt that if life did get started
on Mars, then is should still be there. But we don't see it.
[ RobertHaberle/ARC - 49 - 15:26:13
RE: [Candace/Canada] New Brunswick
[ RobertHaberle/ARC - 54 - 15:31:53
RE: [Stephanie/Edmonton] Has the 2001 rover
been cancelled or just made more like Sojourner. In the Cornell webpage,
it talks about the APEX science instrument; Athena, now for the 2003
Still being worked out. But Athena is definetly not flying in 01. Right
now there is restructuring of the Mars Surveyor program going on and
it will impact the 01 opportunity and beyond. But there is an effort
being made to try to have some mobile capability in 01.
[ RobertHaberle/ARC - 56 - 15:32:45
RE: [Candace/Canada-Candace/HighSchool] I
know this sint Mars related, but i have to do a project on astrophysics....can
you tell me anything about it>
I was trained in atmospheric sciences so I'm probably not the one to
[ RobertHaberle/ARC - 57 - 15:34:13
RE: [Stephanie/Edmonton] What is Mars' atmospheric
drag where compared to Earth's?
It depends on what altitude you are at in the atmosphere. The drag can
be larger or smaller, just depends on where you are.
[ RobertHaberle/ARC - 59 - 15:37:19
RE: [Stephanie/Edmonton] Will you
be analyzing the results when the Polar lander's microprobes slam into
I was on the science advisory team for the polar landers and manged
to get them to put on a pressure sensor. But just recently that had
to take it off so there isn't going to be much science data returned
from the microprobes in the 98 opportunity. Its more of a technology
demonstration - can we hit the ground going 1000's of mph and still
survivie? Stay tuned ........
[ RobertHaberle/ARC - 63 - 15:39:09
RE: [Jay-Pilot/CountyHighSchool] I am doing
a project on can you tell me about it surface.
The surface is generally rocks and sand. There are volcanoes and canyons
and stuff like that, but no tree's no big mountains.
[ RobertHaberle/ARC - 67 - 15:40:46
RE: [Stephanie/Edmonton] Say, if you compare
the atmospheric drag to the altitude where the shuttle begins reentry
and lands....how would the tiles be affected if it was reentering on
Mars instead of Earth?
The shuttle would have the same reentry concerns on Mars as it would
on Earth. Even though its thin, the Martian atmosphere can impose a
lot of drag. That's what MGS is banking on.
[ RobertHaberle/ARC - 69 - 15:41:35
RE: [Candace/Canada-Candace/HighSchool] I
just want to say thanks for taking your time to come chat with us robert...much
Thank you Candace. It was fun!
[ RobertHaberle/ARC - 71 - 15:42:41
RE: [Jay-Pilot/CountyHighSchool] What is
the atmosphere like on Mars
Thin, by comparison to Earth. Made most of CO2 gas, very little oxygen,
water vapor. Surface pressure about 7 mb compared to 1013 mb here on
Earth. So bring your space suit and don't get out of it.
[ RobertHaberle/ARC - 75 - 15:44:02
RE: [Stephanie/Edmonton] I have heard of
a problem with MGS aerobraking because the solar panels are facing the
One of the panels broke at the hinge so instead of aerobraking at 100
km they are trying it at 120 km where the air is alittle thinner and
wont' deflect to panel too much. We don't want to loose the panels!
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RE: [Candace-Candace/HighSchool] whats the
About 1/3 that on earth.
[ RobertHaberle/ARC - 81 - 15:46:39
RE: [Tal-00000000] Is there a life on Mars
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RE: [Stephanie/Edmonton] Definitely not!
:) Are any decisions being changed about keeping MGS's antenna in the
stowed position, just in case the Polar lander needs it as a relay?
Eventually we will deploy the high gain antenna. The decision is when.
Might be a while.
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[ Matt - 28 - 15:09:32 ]
it was great fun talking to you. good luck
[ Emmy/TriValle-mEmmy/TriValle - 68 - 15:41:23 ]
It's been nice talking to you but I have to go. Thank you!
[ Candace/HighSchool-Candace/HighSchool - 74 - 15:43:47 ]
NASA is amazing, and I truly hope that It's work will continue. Bye
everyone. See you next time
[ Stephanie/Edmonton - 87 - 15:50:00 ]
Thank you Robert and Oran. I learned a lot about the atmosphere!
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