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February 1, 2000
QuestChat with Gavin Botha
Aerospace Engineer
NASA Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, CA
Tue Feb 1 11:33:45 2000
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Hello to our early arriving chat participants. Today's Aerospace Team Online
chat with Gavin Botha from NASA Ames Research Center will being in approximately
25 minutes. Be sure you have read Gavin's profile at http://quest.nasa.gov/aero/team/botha.html to
prepare your questions.
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Gavin to answer.
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Hello and welcome to today's Aerospace Team Online chat with Gavin Botha
from NASA Ames Research Center. Gavin Botha uses two of the world's largest
wind tunnels to test full size aircraft. The wind tunnels are part of
the National Full-Scale Aerodynamics Complex, where Gavin is responsible
for preparing existing aircraft, or specially built wind tunnel models,
to be mounted inside the wind tunnels. He also monitors the testing and
experimentation part of the program, to ensure everything functions properly.
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And now, here is Gavin Botha to answer your questions.
[ GavinBotha/ARC
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RE: [Bob] Hi! I wanted to ask you
a question. I want to know hoe I can get a job in NASA when I grow up
to adult. I also want to see VR image of the cockpit. P.S. VR=Virtual
Reality
Good morning everyone, I am always pleased to have the chance to talk
about our great full-scale wind tunnels here at NASA Ames. After all these
are Government facilities, and belong to all of us. Thanks for your question
Bob, NASA offers many different types of jobs that cover almost anything
that you can think of, including virtual reality. The key to getting a
job with NASA is to study hard in the field that you are interested in.
NASA is always looking for smart, inventive minds with a good education.
By the way Virtual Reality is a great field that is in big demand right
now. Keep up the interest!
[ GavinBotha/ARC
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RE: [Njuguna] Other than the Reynold
number and mach number, what addditional parameters are important for
the space shuttle upon return to earth from orbit? What are your comment
as a user of both analogue and digital wind tunnels in terms of differences
in the aquisation of data in regard to subsonic, transonic and hypersonic
facilities?
Thanks Njuguna, In fact we have tested a 1/3 Scale model of the space
shuttle in our Wind Tunnel. The space shuttle presents many challenging
problems. During its initial re-entry, the primary issues are heating
related. Thermodynamic testing is critical to make sure that the Space
Shuttle survives the incredible heat. During the next phase the Space
Shuttle is a very high-speed glider. Testing correct Mach numbers is important
during this phase. The space shuttle does have to slow down to land, and
during this phase testing at the correct Mach and Reynolds numbers together
becomes important. Digital computations are still extremely difficult
to model accurately. Wind Tunnels are very important to validate computational
models in all flight regimes, especially low speed flight.
[ GavinBotha/ARC
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If anyone has driven along hwy 101 through Mountain View, CA you probably
have seen a very large strange looking structure over at Moffett Field.
The structure I am referring to looks like a huge flat wall with a bell
shaped curve behind it. This is the inlet for the works largest wind tunnel.
We use this wind tunnel to test real aircraft. Can you imagine how big
the wind tunnel fans must be to make enough wind to match a flying airplane?
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RE: [Kirsten] How many planes can
you test at one time inside one of the big wind tunnels?
Welcome, Kirsten and Mrs. Choate's class. Gavin will answer your questions
as soon as he can. Thank you for joining us today!
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Well, I will tell you a little about the fans that are needed to blow
wind at over 300mph. There are a total of 6 fans. There are 2 rows each
with 3 fans, stacked on top of each other. Each fan is about 40 feet tall!
That's about the size of a 4 story building. Quite a bit bigger than the
fans we use to keep ourselves cool during the summer:)
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[ GavinBotha/ARC
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RE: [Kirsten] How many planes can
you test at one time inside one of the big wind tunnels?
Great question Kirsten, Normally we test only one thing at a time. But
sometimes we need to know how 2 things interact with each other and that
is when we would put more than one plane in the wind tunnel at a time.
For example we have done testing to see what affects a big airliner has
on a smaller airplane that follows in its air turbulence. For this test
we had a model of a airliner and a smaller airplane behind, to measure
the turbulence of the wings of the airliner.
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RE: [Dylan] Have you ever been hurt
while working in a wind tunnel?
Ahhh, a future safety engineer:) Thanks Dylan, fortunately I have never
been hurt. Safety is very important and we have very strict rules and
procedures to keep everyone safe. The wind tunnel is designed so that
we cannot turn on the air if someone is inside, and before we test anything
in the wind tunnel, we have safety reviews to make sure we are being careful.
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Mrs. Choate's class, we would like to invite you to participate in our
two special chat series occurring this month: Black History Month and
National Engineers' Week. Please check the QuestChat Information Center
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[ GavinBotha/ARC
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There are a lot of really "cool" things we do here at Ames, and we love
to show them off. If you are interested in learning more about what we
do, you should find out about getting a tour of NASA Ames. If you are
really interested in something specific like wind tunnels, virtual reality,
or even simulators, you can arrange for special tours. Anyone can contact
me directly at any time if you would to arrange a visit to the full scale
wind tunnels.
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RE: [Kyle] What is the fastest speed
the wind can go in a wind tunnel?
Hi Kyle, Wind tunnels come in all different sizes and speeds. We have
some very fast wind tunnels that can go over 5 times the speed of sound.
These are used for testing very fast airplanes, and missiles, and things
like the space shuttle. But even the fastest planes need to land and take
off, which happens at slow speeds. Landing and take off is very important
so low speed wind tunnels are used for these conditions. The maximum speed
of the world's largest wind tunnel here at Ames is about 100mph, and the
speed of the slightly smaller wind tunnel is 300mph. This is perfect for
testing slower speed airplanes and helicopters.
[ GavinBotha/ARC
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RE: [Cheston] Do you ever put snow
inside a wind tunnel to do experiements?
Hi Cheston, Interesting question. While we have never actually tested
snow, we have done some experiments with icing. We needed to know what
happens when ice forms on an airplane wing, so we did some experimenting
to see the differences of a clean wing, and then one with ice on it. Snow
does seem like fun though!
[ Oran/NASAChatHost
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This concludes today's Aerospace Team Online chat with Gavin Botha from
NASA Ames Research Center. We would like to thank everyone for joining
us today, and offer our special thanks to Gavin Botha for sharing his
time and career experience with us online today. Thank you, Gavin!
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[ GavinBotha/ARC
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Thanks for all the great questions, If you are interested in seeing some
photos of the wind tunnels and some of our test vehicles, then take a
look at the URL I have listed
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